Of course I shoot a lot in RAW. Simply because they Editing options are significantly more diverse are. After all, I use high-end equipment to create the photos, so why shouldn't I leave the post-processing to programs specially developed for this purpose - RAW converters?
Of course there is lighting situations where every Digiknipse produces usable JPGs, the use of a RAW converter is certainly not necessary. Working directly on JPG saves a lot of time and disk space. So if it's quick and easy - why not. Here you can find, for example a tip through proper preparation to have less work afterwards.
So I work with RAW converters. There has been a lot of trial and error over the last few years. I always only use image conversion with these programs. I have a good system of filenames and IPTC tags, so I don't need the library feature that some programs offer.
Here now my experiences with DxO Optics Pro, Aperture, Capture NX2, Capture One and Lightroom:
I used versions 4 and 5 quite often, and at the time it was the only converter that could carry out lens corrections and thus really got something out of inexpensive lenses. At that time, alongside Bibble, it was also the only RAW converter with which you could edit many images quite easily. It still tries to relieve the user of a lot of work with all sorts of automatic features. Needs pretty good hardware, can still edit a lot of images quickly, has no ability to apply selective adjustments to parts of an image. Creates the smallest JPG compared to the other RAW converters: 132kb for the example image is an announcement. My opinion: outdated!
As much as I love the Apple brand for their products, I don't get along with Aperture. OK, an alternative for the price of just €63, but I can't handle the thing. At Photo buddy Johannes creates great pictures with it, my Photo buddy Paupi was happy when I showed him Lightroom. The operating concept does not meet my expectations, the program tries to do everything and is therefore too slow. And: my pictures always turn out too green with the program. No idea why. File size: 161kb.
This much-maligned program from Nikon was included free of charge with my D3. I used it for a very long time and enjoyed it. It has the incredible advantage that it is the only program that can read the settings in the NEF file and therefore enables a very quick conversion. The selective adjustments with the controls called U-Point technology in marketing speak are great, the auto-correction stamp can drive you crazy. Also opens D800 RAWs in no time. Batch also works, but only with a previously created preset. Unfortunately I cannot add a watermark to the image. Created the largest JPG in my subjective test: 186kb. And can't do anything with Canon RAWs! After leaving it behind for about a year, I'm just now rediscovering it.
Even better than Lightroom 3, great program with a high number of images, slow to start because preview images have to be created first. A jack of all trades. Since everyone works with the program, poor results are not as noticeable because everyone is used to them. Thanks to the seamless collaboration with Photoshop, it's a good precursor to hell. All joking aside: sometimes I don't get satisfactory results with this RAW converter, but often I get very good results really quickly and easily. Clone stamp works best here. Selective adjustments are the most diverse. Users can choose which settings to copy when editing many similar images. JPG size 158kb.
Most expensive product in the test, but convincing in portrait photography - because white balance to skin tones is possible here. Focuses entirely on developing images. Can distinguish between dust and stains when cloning aka stamping. Unfortunately, cloning is a similar vabanque game to Capture NX2. Not entirely intuitive user concept, very versatile, therefore confusing at first. Absolute killer feature: full-screen display – largest working area of all programs in the test. Can have up to 5 layers with selective adjustments. Relatively slow, lens corrections only on a few medium format lenses. Lots of support in Blog and Films. JPG size 164kb.
I developed an image in each of the RAW programs discussed here and tried to get the best out of it - always using only the respective RAW converter. However, I don't master all programs equally well and therefore the results may be different than what you could get with your favorite program. That's why I offer you this RAW file of the image for download at. Have fun playing around with it :)
Conclusion: the ultimate RAW converter doesn't exist. I would like the following combination: Capture NX2 for reading out the NEF content, dxo for correcting camera and lens-specific errors, Capture One for precision in white balance and image editing, Lightroom 4 for transferring to Photoshop and synchronizing similar editing steps lots of pictures.
I recently had the pleasure of taking photos with Capture One for the first time. A killer feature of this program is the ability to sync using iPAD while shooting. The customer can sit comfortably on the couch while taking photos and immediately give ratings.
Oh yes, as far as the watermarks are concerned: everyone else in Capture NX should copy this non-function 🙂
hehe, you old watermark hater 😉
Good idea actually, I think I need to take a look at Capture One, white balance on skin tones would be a killer feature for my TV shows. You really should have some fast hardware for LR4, it's improved compared to LR3, but that's not exactly fast. My iMac got an SSD and it's been working really well since then.
Thanks for this detailed test. Capture One doesn't sound bad, I'll have to take a look.
Cool article. Thanks.
Am I right in assuming that the photos you show are “unedited”, meaning they only show the interpretation of the individual programs in the basic settings?
Thanks and no 🙂 As I wrote in the article: “I developed an image in each of the RAW programs discussed here and tried to get the best out of it – always using the respective RAW converter.” Nobody needs a RAW converter in the basic settings, right?
That's right. But the question arises as to whether the image result wouldn't look completely different if someone else had done the editing.
I'm wondering whether you can edit the images in all converters so that the results look almost the same without having to do a lot of tricks.
I actually assume that – I wrote that in the text. And that's why the RAW is also available for download.
In theory this should be the case, but in practice the hope of synchronous results is quite illusory. After years of tinkering with various raw converters (including all the ones you have presented here), I can say for NEFs (Nikon RAWs) that a simulation of the original image look (i.e. the way the embedded JPEG shows it) with other RAW converters than CNX2 is an impossibility. This is most likely to be achieved with the new camera profiles in LR5. But they simply don't have the shine that CNX2 produces. I find CaptureOne Pro 7 really bad, the profiles stored there for the D3 are simply terrible. – Another word about the basic settings of an RWA converter. Of course they are important, because the closer they are to the original (i.e. the image look of the raw as the embedded JPEG shows it), the less work you have to do when fine-tuning the raw. And a RAW converter shouldn't do more than fine tuning - at least for everyday jobs. Otherwise you probably did something wrong when taking the photo.
It certainly depends on which area you work in. Personally, the reproduction of actual events in portrait and wedding jobs is not as important to me as an adequate representation of a color mood.
nice
As a long-time Apple user, I was also very surprised at how little I got along with Aperture, namely not at all, even though I even ordered the book and read it 😉
I haven't tried LR4 yet because I read that there are problems when you update the older files to the new process (?) and that it is extremely slow. You now write that this is the case at the start, only at the start?
There is a problem when updating the LR3 catalogs to LR4 that will probably be fixed with the next release. Even afterwards. At least that's what I read from the release candidate. The speed of the programs always depends heavily on the hardware used.
Thanks for the info, I'll just wait. True, if it is claimed that software runs slowly, you should first question the hardware. I can live with a slow start :)
Can you say to what extent the RAW converter in LR and PS are similar?
As far as I know, the same engine is behind it. But I don't know for sure.
LR and PS use the same converter (assuming the version is the same), only the interface is different.
Thanks Stefan & Sam. 😉
It's impressive how different the images and edits are - the Aperture version, for example, is much more colorful than the rest.
If I were you, I would now put sections next to each other so that I can compare them: cut out an eye from each picture, skin, fabric, background, so that they can really be next to each other.
The different white balance makes further comparisons of the results very difficult.
Thank you for your overview and your assessments.
One question: I'm going to come out as an old Bibble user (for the majority of current things). Bibble is now "dead", but Corel took over the product under the name AfterShotPro and continued to develop it with the old development team. I know: Corel has - let's put it politely - a very mixed reputation. But I still wonder whether you have ever experimented with AfterShotPro and if so, what do you think of it.
Oh, sorry, no idea. I didn't even realize that Bibble no longer existed...
After I loaded all of your photos onto my Mac and compared them, I would prefer Nikon's software - Capture NX2. Unfortunately I can't get the original NEF from your Dropbox.
Basically, I use Aperture myself, which I'm personally very happy with because I also use it to manage my photos.
LR4 is absolutely not my thing and I can't say anything about One.
In any case, your 5 photos are very different in color.
Thank you for confirming my impression!
PS: I managed to get the NEF.
Thanks for your contribution!
LG Walter
I was surprised, but it's good that it worked.
Nice article...there are now numerous converters. My favorite is DxO http://fotobeam.de/blog/testberichte/test-raw-entwickler-dxo-optics-pro/
Best regards,
Andreas
Thank you,
I am enthusiastic about the corrections in DxO, unfortunately AfterShot Pro (formerly Bibble) is missing in this comparison. I get along best with AfterShot, but unfortunately there is no lens correction for my Nikon P7100 🙁
I thank you too!
I'm currently working with Aperture and reorienting myself. I'm currently testing Capture One and Lightroom. Comparison Comparison of the results makes you think... After that I would definitely prefer Capture One to Lightroom and Aperture is out of the question anyway. NX2 is out of the question because I print with Canon...
I opened the image in Photoshop with the DNG converter without adjusting anything about it. Then immediately switched to LAB mode and created a new tonal value adjustment layer. With these three parameters L, A and B I can regulate everything to my liking and get far better results than the example images above.
The only thing you have to take into account is to reduce all the adjustment layers you have made to a visible layer or to the background layer and then switch back to RGB mode.
Very good! I like to believe you. But is this a method to efficiently edit hundreds of images - for example from a wedding?
But good to know that the good old LAB mode still has its place 🙂
Thanks for the interesting review: The fact that you can't get along with Aperture is a personal matter. As an Aperture user who is currently testing Capture One 7, some things about Capture One seem very similar and copied to me. If anything, you have to go very deep to be able to recognize specific advantages that I haven't yet seen myself. Aperture is more sophisticated, more varied and has better amateur features that help in easily improving the image. So far I have been able to simulate all relevant Capture One functions in Aperture. Capture One is certainly very good, certainly a good professional software for digital back photographers who want to make money from amateurs. As an Aperture user, based on my current experience, I will certainly not buy the expensive Capture One. Where Capture One is better today, Aperture will follow suit with the next update anyway.
Thank you for your decided opinion. Everyone should work with the program that suits them best. I wrote that I can't get along with Aperture.
…. and then there is Phocus by Hasselblad, another very professional software, which is available for free download after registration at http://www.hasselblad.de , at Download / Software.
There are many other RAW converters. But I'm not a test center, I just write down my experiences. That helps some.
I use Aperture to manage and quickly develop most of my images. For special images I use Capture NX2: the best program for Nikon NEF, because it's from Nikon. This allows you to get 100% out of the recording, but unfortunately the workflow in conjunction with View NX is cumbersome and slow. I can't handle LR4 at all. DxO has an ingenious lens correction, but otherwise couldn't convince me. Speaking of aperture: White balance to skin tones is very possible with the program. Simply switch to skin tone and use the eyedropper to select the image area.
Oh, Aperture can do that too? Astonishing! Thanks for the tip. Otherwise, we are close in our assessment of the programs 🙂
thanks for the comparison. I'm also currently testing various raw converters and am desperate that the manufacturers are isolating themselves.
Workflow:
I select the images with Photo Mechanic, tag them, etc. Then I load the “keepers” into Lightroom or Capture One.
If I now make changes to the RAW files in Capture One and do not export the image as a TIFF, Lightroom does not "see" these changes to the RAW files. But I would like that to happen in order to be able to further edit the images as RAW files in Lightroom.
An example application would be using VSCO film emulations on RAW files in Lightroom after sharpening in Capture One.
Does anyone have a solution for this?
Greeting
Ishan
I know the problem and am taking a detour via PSDs. She knows each of the programs mentioned.
Hi Stefan,
Thank you very much for your converter comparison! I think the NX2 produced the most natural and pleasant result for your image. Especially when it comes to contrasts.
Until recently I was still working with Adobe's DNG converter and camera raw, until I noticed when comparing jpg how bad the basic setting turned out. Of course, after a lot of back and forth, you can get an acceptable result, but that takes time! I also think it's easier to turn a good result into a better one than to conjure up a good result from a bad default setting.
If you still have all the converters, a comparison of different images without any editing in the basic position would be the most meaningful in my opinion, but I suspect that the NX2 is ahead in this regard.
Hi,
The comparison would be flawed because NX2 reads the Picture Style settings made in the camera from the RAWs. Of course, converters from third-party manufacturers cannot do this.
I'll dig out the post again 😉
Since PhaseOne is currently selling the Pro version with a decent discount, I'm once again faced with the agony of whether to buy it or not.
I'm still with LR and have stuck with it because I've internalized the workflow since the first version and already have many of the presets.
What is your state of affairs two years after this post?
Greetings Torsten
Still. LR is for fast masses, C1 for subtle things.
Why is there no Dropbox connection at photo mechanice? If so, could someone tell me how?
Hallo Vicky,
do you mean when exporting? I simply select the corresponding folder on Dropbox. The only requirement is that Dropbox is mounted.
I would like to work with Capture One Pro version 6 or higher. I then bought a license for 7. Working intensively with it has shown me that the image editing options are very good, but the programming is so flawed that I won't upgrade to newer versions.
My extensive tests with versions 8.xx and 9 showed me: Nothing has improved. Version 9 has new bugs that are annoying because there doesn't seem to be a workaround. It's a shame - there are some good opportunities in the program, which is not very professional.
Maybe you should talk to support.