The problem for today's photographers is the display. You take a photo, look at the display and are happy with the result. Things used to be different when using film, when you didn't know until days later whether there was a usable photo - you continued taking photos back then, even if you were sure that there was a good picture. Today we are satisfied too quickly.
I find this statement remarkable because it puts a different perspective on the helpful invention of the control display in digital SLR cameras. Not from a technical point of view, but from a psychological one.
And I have to say he's right. I, too, have often caught myself discovering a detail afterwards on the large monitor of my computer at home that I could have done better when taking photos. At least now I know why I made this mistake.
I can't really understand that myself.
I'll say the following from an art director's perspective first. I only work with photographers who are not quickly satisfied. On the contrary. And of course everyone works with a control screen during the shoots. There is no other way to judge it.
First comes the compulsory, then the freestyle. And the freestyle photos are usually the best ones.
In other words, any photographer who wants to deliver professional work surely doesn't rely on the display??? This just shocks me. But maybe it depends on the area of application.
It took me exactly 1 shoot to find out for myself. After that, the control screen was always with Jobs. You just learn from mistakes. Or not. :O)
@Tanya,
You can't rely on the mini display. You just don't see everything. But I suspect you mean a different kind of control screen. Of course, the large monitor in the studio to assess the recording in the presence of the art director makes a lot of sense. You can see and work out the smallest details.
But I think that Stefan is only referring to the camera's preview monitor. And to be honest: if a photographer shows an art director his results on the camera monitor, then he has probably misunderstood something.
@Teatime, yes of course I mean a large control screen. Maybe I haven't fully grasped the problem yet.
I'll try again. Hmm... I don't know any professional photographers who rely on the small camera display. Neither in the studio nor during outdoor recordings.
And I've noticed that (my) photographers don't approach the image any differently digitally than they did with analogue. Because I was also there during this time.
I myself rarely look at the display anymore (here I am taking a photo “just for fun”), as it can only show the correct section of the image at best.
And I'll leave your last sentence like that for now... *grin*
Happens to me far too often RT @rim_light: Satisfied too quickly? http://www.stefangroenveld.de/bildergalerie/zu-schnell-zufrieden/
Satisfied too quickly? http://www.stefangroenveld.de/bildergalerie/zu-schnell-zufrieden/
The quote could also be mine. 😉
During workshops, I recommend that participants consciously avoid looking at the display during a photo task. This is the only way to think more about the actual image and not just rely on the small slide in the preview.
Difficult 😉 Basically, I'm one of those people who 'still' carry on, even when I know in my head that I've hit the mark (according to my own ideas or in the spirit of the production). A different pose, a different perspective; something can usually still be teased out 😉 Regardless of whether a control monitor is present (always in large productions, usually not in 'guerilla' for practical reasons), I actually only use the camera display to quickly check the exposure and focus; the final selection is always made on the 'big' screen... And I agree with Tanja; the best pictures are usually taken during the 'freestyle', when everyone knows that the compulsory program has been completed.
But when I look at the daily hordes of photographers here on the street, then I have to agree with Leongard: one click, one look at the mouse cinema called the camera monitor and then it's on to the next 'motif'...
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I can't understand it from a hobby photographer's point of view either.
Despite the display, people (or at least I) tend to take MORE photos these days rather than LESS. And that's exactly what has always been criticized since the beginning of digital photography. Now the other way around, the digitalos would be satisfied too early??
In the analog days, the number of images per motif was SIGNIFICANTLY less, in my opinion... At least for us amateurs, this cost factor was always there, and not everyone felt like changing the 36 film rolls like a sore thumb because they would have shot through one per motif can…
I cannot really understand this aspect of “looking at the display leads to the too-early-satisfaction effect”…
It's not the display (at least for me) but rather the RAW format and Photoshop that are the crutches for some.
As soon as you have in mind that you can squeeze a lot out of the RAW and then use Photoshop to correct your own mistakes, you start to work inaccurately.
Ah, that's fine, I'll do it at home...
The display itself is only there for me to check the image composition and to check the histogram.
I find the display useful for assessing some basic things about the image.
Let's be honest, it's happened to all of us that we've forgotten an important point in the rush, changing the white balance, incorrect ISO values, not adjusting the exposure optimally, etc.
A display like this is okay for that, just for a quick checkup.
I'm only ever satisfied with my results for a very short time anyway. After a few days at the latest, I think of things that I would like to do better and more optimally next time.
And I think it's okay because it gives me room for further development.
Yes, Jo Hille, I also know the latter all too well :)
I'm also familiar with the situation where, after looking at the display, I thought I had a good picture, which later turned out not to be the case, but as a matter of principle I always try to take several pictures, also to be on the safe side , because you can never really see it in detail.
Compared to before, I definitely have more photos, as digital photography has brought an increase in image material.
Nevertheless, there is still a risk of misjudging the result, especially with recordings where you have little opportunity to repeat them. Which is why I'm reluctant to show the display results of visitor pictures at festivals like other photographers, because you don't know what the picture actually looks like.
Well, there is some truth to be found in the comments so far. Absolutely right:
– we tend to take too many photos (i.e. we are amateurs, not your professionals)
– the monitor should only be used to check basic things
So that actually leaves the following procedure (which I don't follow myself - that's being changed today): First take a picture, then check whether the settings are correct and then CONSCIOUSLY pull the trigger, not fire it.
Luckily, I've been able to learn how to delete recently.
Satisfied too quickly? http://t.co/yqgJ6jg
Hmm, maybe the approaches of the professionals and amateurs really differ here. I (amateur and coming from analog SLR photography) am thrilled that I can now take pictures endlessly and not have to keep in mind the price of the development and the number of images still available. I'd rather take three times more than too little. And since LiveView mode gives me a headache, I can't see anything on this mouse cinema without reading glasses and I'm always looking at the battery and want to save energy), this feature is switched off by default for me, so there's no danger of being satisfied too quickly doesn't come up in the first place.
On the contrary, I wish I had a much larger preview monitor!!
The photos turned out best when I took the trouble to take a notebook with me and take photos tethered: Even on a measly 13″ I see significantly more “flaws” in the image that could be better.
Or at least looked at the pictures on a notebook during breaks from shooting.
I'm still considering whether an IKAN or Lilliput LCD screen with HDMI input can replace the notebook for image control. In any case, it would be desirable.
Otherwise, I always get annoyed after the shoots when I look at the pictures calmly and without any time pressure and realize: “Damn, I could have done that better, I didn’t see that on site and I didn’t think of it either.”
I am very rarely satisfied.